----BEGIN CLASS---- [13:30] #startclass [13:30] Roll Call [13:30] Pravar Agrawal [13:30] Saurav Saha [13:30] Pavitra [13:30] Bryan [13:30] Robin Schubert [13:30] Jason Braganza [13:30] zarnigma [13:30] C Dharmateja [13:30] Nandeesh Gupta [13:30] Anil Khatri [13:30] Ayush Karn [13:30] kanay bhandari [13:30] Vibhor [13:30] Abhishek Kumar [13:30] Sourabh Deshmukh [13:30] Kumar Vipin Yadav [13:30] hellozee [13:30] Ritik Raushan [13:30] Bhavin Gandhi [13:30] Priyanka Hiranandani [13:30] Ankur [13:30] Rohan Maity [13:30] Nilesh Patra [13:30] swiftkiller [13:30] md salman ansari [13:30] Sheetal [13:30] Souvik Haldar [13:30] matorix_ [13:30] Sayan Bhowmik [13:30] akash kashyap [13:31] <_honey_> honey bhardwaj [13:31] Manu Shaurya [13:31] Ankit Kumar [13:31] <_poonam_> Poonam Chauhan [13:31] Philemon Johnson [13:31] <_ABD_> Abdul Raheem [13:32] good evening. i am here today to convince you to write. [13:32] hi, folks [13:32] Ankesh Bharti [13:32] and good evening [13:32] SSahid: the session is going on [13:32] so to start, how many of you folk have *not* read https://summertraining.readthedocs.io/en/latest/blogging.html [13:32] i have read this [13:32] Roll Call: Pallav Bhalla [13:32] the ones who have not, type me [13:32] didn't get there yet, sorry [13:33] me [13:33] me [13:33] me [13:33] me [13:33] me [13:33] me [13:33] <_poonam_> me [13:33] Mridul gpyal [13:33] me [13:33] me [13:33] ROll Call: Mridul Goyal [13:34] alright [13:34] Roll call: saurav [13:34] Ok, so tonight I’ll just comment on why write. [13:34] Roll Call: Ananya Maiti [13:34] and after i am done with that, i’ll give you a 10 m break to go read https://summertraining.readthedocs.io/en/latest/blogging.html [13:35] and after that, i’ll do q & a [13:35] I expect us to take an hour. Or an hour and a half if we have lots of questions. [13:36] If we run over you can always mail me your questions at jason@janusworx.com or ask right here in the channel when I am around. [13:36] ! [13:36] As a bunch of (mostly) bright young folk (who don’t do homework) on the cusp of adulthood, writing is a skill I want you to have the most. [13:37] next [13:37] is the mailing list for that kind of thing too? [13:37] ! [13:37] every one else hold your questions until later [13:37] Whoroo what kind of thing? [13:37] aah asking queries [13:38] asking those questions we don't get to here [13:38] sure [13:38] that is a good place too [13:38] ok [13:38] so writing is a skill I want you to have the most [13:38] Why? [13:38] rollcall: Rohit Sharma [13:38] Here’s a short passage by Sapiens author Yuval Noah Harari [13:38] roll call, Bhavesh Gupta [13:39] The real difference between us and chimpanzees is the mysterious glue that enables millions of us, humans to cooperate effectively. [13:39] This mysterious glue is made of *stories*, not genes. We cooperate effectively with strangers because we believe in things like gods, nations, money and human rights. [13:39] Yet none of these things exists outside the stories that people invent and tell one another. [13:39] Ever since the Cognitive Revolution, Sapiens have thus been living in a dual reality. [13:39] On the one hand, the objective reality of rivers, trees and lions; and on the other hand, the imagined reality of gods, nations and corporations. As time went by, the imagined reality became ever more powerful, so that today the very survival of rivers, trees and lions depends on the grace of imagined entities such as the idea of a country like India and or companies, like Google. [13:40] Or if you are a comic book fan everyone’s favourite anarchist has this to say [13:40] V: Did you think to kill me? There’s no flesh or blood within this cloak to kill. There is only an idea. Ideas are bulletproof. [13:40] Or if you’ve seen the movie, the denouement scene, [13:40] Creedy: Die! Die! Why won’t you die?... Why won’t you die? [13:40] V: Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. [13:41] done reading folks? [13:42] <_honey_> yes [13:42] yes [13:42] Yes [13:42] yes [13:42] yup [13:42] jasonbraganza, yes [13:42] yup [13:42] Yup. [13:42] yes [13:42] yes [13:42] yes [13:42] yes [13:42] yes [13:42] yes [13:42] yes [13:42] ok [13:42] yes [13:42] yes [13:42] Yes [13:42] yes [13:42] yes [13:42] yes [13:42] <_poonam_> yes [13:42] yes [13:42] Yes [13:42] So if ideas and stories are the most powerful things we have … [13:42] yup [13:42] Yes [13:42] Yes [13:43] writing is its *most powerful, most potent* expression. [13:43] yes [13:43] yes [13:44] yes [13:44] We have ideas from 2000-3000 years ago still, because folks then took the time to *write it down.* [13:44] yes [13:44] the vedas, the upanishads, the old testament, the writings of the stoics [13:44] And like Seth Godin often says, ideas that spread win. [13:44] yes [13:45] and for an idea to spread, you need to *write it down* [13:45] Writing may be the skill with the highest return on investment of all. Because writing is a symptom of thinking. [13:46] If you’re a marketer, being able to write means you can tell your story. [13:46] ! [13:46] If you’re looking for a job, being able to write makes you part of a special minority. [13:47] If you drive a floss project, good documentation can launch your project into the stratosphere. [13:47] (Just look at the Django project and Reitz’s Requests package) [13:48] Writing is organised thinking on behalf of persuasion. [13:48] This point, to my mind, the fact that writing is organised thinking, is the reason I write. [13:48] Because it forces me to clarify things in my mind. [13:49] What *do* I want to say? [13:49] to myself? [13:49] to my family? [13:49] to my friends? [13:49] to the world at large? [13:50] if you read the links I posted at the end of https://summertraining.readthedocs.io/en/latest/blogging.html, you’ll see that is most of my focus when it comes to writing [13:50] to write is to clarify thought. [13:50] to write so that i can see all sides of an argument [13:51] (https://fs.blog/2013/04/the-work-required-to-have-an-opinion/) [13:51] to do the important work of *thinking* [13:51] to write something [13:51] go away [13:51] revisit after a while [13:51] and see if my thoughts on the subject have changed [13:52] writing lets me think more expansively than my brain can hold thoughts. [13:52] Otherwise by the time I am at the end of my chain of thought, I normally am like, what started all this? XD [13:53] and when i see them there laid bare, on paper, on the blog they spark of even more thoughts! [13:53] so go, write! [13:53] write daily [13:53] or every couple of days [13:53] make mistakes [13:54] don’t dwell on the tech too much [13:54] focus on what you want to say [13:54] and get better at thinking :) [13:55] any one remember what mbuf had to say on reading vs writing? [13:55] 10:1 [13:55] 10 to 1 [13:55] so here’s my addendum [13:55] 100:10:1 [13:55] Read more than you write, live more than you read. [13:55] 10:1 [13:56] 10:1 [13:56] and that ladies and gentlemen is why i want you all to write :) [13:56] with that we shall take a 10 m break so that you can read https://summertraining.readthedocs.io/en/latest/blogging.html [13:57] ! [13:57] ! [13:57] ! [13:57] ! [13:57] and i’ll see you on the other side with questions [13:58] ok for the folks who have read and are here asking lets start. [13:58] next [13:59] ! [13:59] can you explain me the difference between blog and a website? [13:59] ! [13:59] ! [13:59] <_honey_> ! [14:00] ! [14:00] kanay_ a blog is a log of what you are writing. like a journal. a website is more like a static poster board if that makes any sense :) [14:00] next [14:00] is this linux session going on ? [14:00] no [14:00] next [14:00] The barrier to writing a blog is so low today that anyone can do it, and almost everyone has a blog now. So what podcasts are today, blogs were some time ago. In the noise there is very little chance even for the best to stand out. Except for benefits of writing(that you told) what/how can we cope up with the situation. And are there alternatives to blogging? [14:01] ! [14:01] internaut_ not to my mind. did you read https://summertraining.readthedocs.io/en/latest/blogging.html? and why i think you still need to write and blog? :) [14:01] next [14:01] Jason what should we write about when we have not started any project or anything major, like yes there was a example of kunal's blog of just telling about the juniors in his college, so our blog for the time could be anything?(until we have something good in our life related to technology) [14:02] @jasonbraganza, yes but like alternatives (because of so much already) [14:02] :P [14:02] swiftkiller from what i have observed over the past two years, i shall be thankful to you if you just *write*. write regularly. i don’t really care what you write about [14:03] internaut_ think about what i writ there and what i wrote above today. what do i think your motivation to write should be? [14:03] next [14:03] do we have to write on specific things or on our interest? like politics etc [14:03] I got answered thanks [14:03] :) [14:03] next [14:03] while writing sometime i feel very tough what i wanted to express but not able expess how i can improve [14:04] ! [14:04] ! [14:04] ! [14:04] sap143 to all the oldies here, what do i say to improve? [14:04] bhavin192, sandeepk, RJ722 ^ [14:05] jasonbraganza: write more, XD [14:05] jasonbraganza, write more! [14:05] all of them are not around, so this is what i say sap143. write. write more. :[ [14:05] :) [14:05] read more, write more [14:05] aah there we go :) [14:05] next [14:05] jasonbraganza : practice, practice and practice [14:05] Should the blogs be on based on certain fields or should they be off-topic at times? [14:05] ! [14:06] ! [14:06] matorix_ in the beginning i want quantity. so what ever you choose to [14:06] ok one disclaimer here people [14:07] your blogs will be on the student planet. so if you want to be there, you need to self censor a bit [14:07] but i do want you to write more [14:07] so write lots about stuff that are not hot button topics, ok? [14:08] okay [14:08] okay [14:08] jasonbraganza, okay [14:08] and if you do want to write those, you can always have another blog, or give the student planet a customised feed that only shows the safe posts [14:08] next [14:08] <_honey_> In that link , there were certain major and minor platforms other than wordpress, what are they? can you name some for reference so that we can try out? [14:09] _honey_ ask around after the session. the folks here will be glad to flood you with details :) [14:09] next [14:09] how could we stop connecting unnecessary things to one another, like i usually just mix up the topics from plants to environment to social issues to politics and so on? [14:09] <_honey_> sure :) [14:09] <_honey_> thanks jasonbraganza [14:09] shivansh in the beginning i *want* you to do that. write. write whatever you want. [14:09] next [14:10] ! [14:10] okay [14:10] next [14:10] Is it necessary to write only blogs, can't we write posts and articles on various other platforms? As you told that writing something is more important. [14:10] If I want to write something about Linux in my blog but that thing is already written by someone else , then should I write that article ? [14:11] I am sorry [14:11] mdl2000 owning what you write is equally important! don’t do free work for other people. you want to build your presence over time. why hand your value to other people? [14:11] next [14:11] next [14:12] One thing that I really struggle is writing regularly. I really think of writing but delay it to the extent that I feel skipping the piece. How to tackle this and is writing content from history the right thing ? [14:12] Thanks jasonbraganza :) [14:12] ananyo publish the unfinished piece. start the next one. [14:12] write regularly [14:12] and it all comes into place [14:12] you need to write more! [14:12] jasonbraganza: my question is left [14:13] eldraco__: yes! Your perspective might be different, or your way to explain. It may also be perceived differently from the reader, so the article may be more useful for individuals than others [14:13] also explain writing content from history [14:13] ! [14:13] eldraco__ so sorry. i missed it! [14:13] eldraco__: it's also fine to refer to existing articles and extend them [14:13] eldraco_ simple answer you did not read https://summertraining.readthedocs.io/en/latest/blogging.html [14:14] could you make a chat system without using sockets [14:14] ! [14:14] eldraco_ write. nobody else has your voice [14:14] jasonbraganza, An incident or issue that happened long back [14:14] thomasb892: a session is going on, please wait with that question [14:14] ananyo that is the best place to draw from! [14:14] next [14:14] jasonbraganza: can you share the link of your first blog ..n how to decided what to write [14:15] priyankahira, First start using full English :) [14:15] Sorry [14:16] priyankahira sorry. the first blog is dead. but you can read https://janusworx.com and https://mjbraganza.com. i have been trying (and failing and trying again) to practice what i preach. to write more. to write regularly :) [14:16] next [14:16] should we create our blog on wordpress? [14:16] kanay_ you did not read https://summertraining.readthedocs.io/en/latest/blogging.html :) [14:16] ! [14:16] or you’d know what i suggest [14:16] i read [14:17] and what did you not understand? [14:17] should we have to buy a domain for creating our blog? [14:18] ! [14:18] kanay_ no. i said i want you to write. regularly. if you can get a domain fine. if you can do your own blog engine fine. if you can do github pages fine. but more than all that i want you to write on that godforsaken thing. so if you don’t want or can’t do all that, wordpress is readily available. [14:18] kanay_: We're not supposed to tell you want you want to do. There are many ways to start blogging, you don't need to use paid services, but you can if you want to. It's up to you [14:18] next [14:18] https://summertraining.readthedocs.io/en/latest/blogging.html#structuring-and-writing-a-post [14:18] I couldn't understand points under 1 c [14:19] deadcypher they cut in the middle of a scene so that there is disruption and you are hooked to what comes next :) i need you to create that kind of ebb and flow :) [14:19] next [14:20] What makes a technical blog different from a research paper? Like when I'm trying write about a paper I just read (and implemented probably), what's the line of difference that I should make? [14:21] shaur honestly i have no clue. but what i can suggest is that you ask yourself, who is this for? who am i writing for? how can i best serve the objective? that should clarify things for you [14:21] ok, thanks [14:21] the audience for a paper is probably your peers [14:22] who is the audience for the tech blog? [14:22] the same folks? then no difference :) [14:22] not the same folks? then you change your style :) [14:22] next [14:22] you replied to mdl2000, ...' you want to build your presence over time. *why hand your value to other people?*' What do you mean by this? I didnt understood that [14:22] maybe people who are new [14:23] internaut_ have you seen kushal’s blog? [14:23] Yes [14:23] so that is his brand [14:23] he does not need facebook or twitter [14:23] ! [14:23] his work, his thoughts live there [14:23] on the blog [14:24] if all the social media platforms died tomorrow, kushal would be unaffected [14:24] besides his blog shows the arc of his career. his growthi. [14:25] that has afforded him so many opportunities. personal as well as professional [14:25] next [14:25] jasonbraganza: should I really write all the stuff that comes to my mind considering its totally off topic in the beginning? [14:25] rohit_ yes [14:25] next [14:25] You said that kushal's blog is his brand. Can we make our brand on other platforms instead of a blogging website by posting content over there? [14:25] mdl2000 no [14:25] next [14:25] ! [14:25] next [14:26] But why jasonbraganza [14:26] mdl2000 ask me after the session [14:26] Hope you don't mind answering that :) [14:26] ! [14:26] Sure [14:26] nosetrex there? [14:26] next [14:26] If I write my blog is point form, will it be ok? I prefer if its simple so that I can understand [14:26] s/is/in [14:26] nosetrex if you write. i will be happy [14:27] knownymous_ ? [14:27] you mentioned above "your blogs will be on the student planet. so if you want to be there, you need to self censor a bit" Can you please explain this [14:27] student planet? [14:28] knownymous_ you want me to explain the student planet part? [14:28] brb [14:28] back [14:28] knownymous_ ^ [14:29] yes is this a platform? [14:29] knownymous_ http://students.planet.dgplug.org [14:29] kushal sets this up every year [14:30] it is a blog aggregator that reads the posts of every student who submits their blog [14:30] Ohk searching for this thanks a lot [14:30] I missed the url . Thank you [14:30] next [14:30] aah just in time :) [14:30] are there any more questions? [14:30] no [14:30] ! [14:30] next [14:30] If I start writing my blogs, would you say it is a good idea to write about 2 different genres altogether [14:31] snowmanstark if you start writing blogs, i will say it is a good idea [14:31] :) [14:31] with that lets call it a night :) ----END CLASS----