Jul 03 18:30:34 ------SESSION STARTS--------- Jul 03 18:30:36 * humpty (~chatzilla@122.175.147.14) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:30:42 pingall: roll call Jul 03 18:30:43 humpty, koushik_, acetakwas, amittima, Anupkumar, abhaykrish, zishan, jaba, papiya, deepak_sirone, ramsan, urocksss, titli, CuriousLearner, surabhi, yeshi, bnprk, korak1, heena, rahulmishra, amit001, satarupa, pratik46, zetron, Shrink, harsha, akki2200, annesha, thejamen, iamviknesh, shilpi, nshaikh, unknown21, ramkrsna, Poornima, soumyaC, debjit, siddharth185, Shankho, Jul 03 18:30:44 ruprela, souradeep, silentSae, leero9, tkkr6895, NP1995, Koushik, swati, romil931, fewcha_, Karthik_B, mnw94, pratik_, lixxz, shashank_, eeshangarg, stguin, anarang, kanika04, devmodem, nmzaheer, elacheche, orriols, hari510, sivteck, vimal, Akinza, stultus, toxboi, bibhas, harshit93, vignesh_, DhritiShikhar_, dev212, harshit933, hari_, kanha, Jackson_waartaa, rahulch1, Jul 03 18:30:44 ajnr_, ciypro|afk, droy, subho, Armageddon, preludelinux, D4rk, oini, codaholic, kdas_, liara, digisec, marienz, ralsina, @ChanServ, samikshan Jul 03 18:30:44 roll call Jul 03 18:30:48 Sivaram Balakrishnan Jul 03 18:30:49 Sheesh Mohsin Jul 03 18:30:49 Binay Pareek Jul 03 18:30:52 Nishant Pani Jul 03 18:30:53 Anup Jul 03 18:30:53 Harsha Jul 03 18:30:54 Anjali Jul 03 18:30:56 Amir Jul 03 18:30:56 Shankho Ghosh Jul 03 18:30:56 KoraK GHOSH Jul 03 18:30:56 Athira S Jul 03 18:30:58 Satarupa Sinha Jul 03 18:30:59 Amit kumar Jul 03 18:31:02 Pratik Saraf Jul 03 18:31:02 Dharmesh Ruprela Jul 03 18:31:03 Surabhi Jul 03 18:31:03 Aakash Jul 03 18:31:04 Thejazeto Lhousa Jul 03 18:31:07 Eeshan Garg Jul 03 18:31:09 Yasharth Jul 03 18:31:11 Vikneshwar Jul 03 18:31:12 Aditya Jul 03 18:31:14 Amit Tripathi Jul 03 18:31:17 shilpi shukla Jul 03 18:31:21 Yeshita Dutta Jul 03 18:31:21 Vipul Agarwal Jul 03 18:31:23 * AMRITAVIDYA\u4cs (~chatzilla@111.93.99.180) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:31:27 Poornima Kshirsagar Jul 03 18:31:28 Siddharth Kulshrestha Jul 03 18:31:29 * AMRITAVIDYA\u4cs is now known as PraveenKarol Jul 03 18:31:29 Koushik Bag Jul 03 18:31:34 kanika narang Jul 03 18:31:40 * nithinr (uid36345@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hkkmtnkadtansnsn) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:31:43 Heena Kaushar Jul 03 18:31:43 * qfarjad (~qfarjad@39.32.111.183) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:31:46 now do I get free lunch? Jul 03 18:31:47 Zaheer Jul 03 18:31:50 or a pint maybe? Jul 03 18:31:52 Abhay Krishnan Jul 03 18:31:58 Praveen Karol Jul 03 18:32:01 /msg NickServ humpty 0410 Jul 03 18:32:02 Papiya Sen Jul 03 18:32:13 Koushik Saha Jul 03 18:32:14 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to kushal Jul 03 18:32:14 Qazi Farjad Jul 03 18:32:22 Titli Das Jul 03 18:32:27 ashwani Jul 03 18:32:27 * sukanya (~androirc@101.221.130.129) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:32:30 * kushal has kicked toxboi from #dgplug (toxboi) Jul 03 18:32:30 Orriols Jul 03 18:32:45 * Jupiter (~AMRITAVID@111.93.99.180) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:32:45 * kushal gives channel operator status to orriols Jul 03 18:32:46 Nithin Raj Jul 03 18:32:47 * rahulmishra has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) Jul 03 18:32:51 * deepak_sirone has quit (Excess Flood) Jul 03 18:32:53 * kushal gives channel operator status to Armageddon Jul 03 18:32:54 * stultus has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 03 18:33:01 Amrutha Jul 03 18:33:15 * deepak_sirone (~deepak@117.241.56.200) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:33:25 Sukanya Mandal Jul 03 18:33:30 * acetakwas_ (~acetakwas@196.46.246.175) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:33:40 * acetakwas_ has quit (Client Quit) Jul 03 18:33:43 * CuriousLearner has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) Jul 03 18:34:10 * ruprela has quit (Quit: Page closed) Jul 03 18:34:14 * devmodem has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 03 18:34:16 Out of 100 people only 44 gave roll calls Jul 03 18:34:20 still good. Jul 03 18:34:24 Dhriti SHikhar Jul 03 18:34:36 45 that is now :) Jul 03 18:34:51 kushal, My connection is a bit slow , did my roll call appear? Jul 03 18:34:53 * acetakwas has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) Jul 03 18:35:00 * rahulmishra (~chatzilla@1.187.198.146) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:35:02 * SpeedBus (~SpeedBus@unaffiliated/speedbus) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:35:09 deepak_sirone, I hope so, will check later, Jul 03 18:35:18 kushal, ok Jul 03 18:35:22 SpeedBus, stay after the session, will talk. Jul 03 18:35:43 Anyway, so how much people actually read last night? Jul 03 18:35:48 * stultus (~stultus@wikisource/Hrishikesh.kb) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:35:49 ramsandesh Jul 03 18:35:59 I read 50 pages Jul 03 18:36:17 I couldn't attend yesterday's session Jul 03 18:36:17 * CuriousLearner (3bb2ceb3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.178.206.179) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:36:21 will cover up today Jul 03 18:36:26 * mac1733 (~mac1733@208.81.149.194) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:36:27 same here Jul 03 18:36:31 yep kushal updated kernel rebooted my VPS, forgot to startup ZNC :x Jul 03 18:36:37 kushal, I could read only a few pages. I would complete it today. Jul 03 18:36:43 * Prash_542 (319c9406@gateway/web/freenode/ip.49.156.148.6) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:36:54 kushal, not really the last one but read your the first two logs from the beginning, and also started with command line crash course Jul 03 18:36:59 No one has to complete it. Jul 03 18:37:04 humpty, good. Jul 03 18:37:04 not much, 30-35 pages only. Jul 03 18:37:06 * sukanya has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 03 18:37:13 read that book with slow pace. Jul 03 18:37:19 You will learn a lot of things. Jul 03 18:37:22 * sukanya (~androirc@101.221.130.129) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:37:23 still reading.. Jul 03 18:37:23 Kushal, Okay. Jul 03 18:37:32 Did I miss RollCall?? Jul 03 18:37:32 Anyway coming back to today's stuff. Jul 03 18:37:36 Prash_542 pratik46 pratik_ PraveenKarol praveenkumar preludelinux Jul 03 18:37:38 Prash_542, yes. Jul 03 18:37:40 sorry was busy :( coudn't read much , will do this weeked :) Jul 03 18:37:42 * Akinza has quit (Quit: Akinza) Jul 03 18:37:43 * amittima has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 03 18:37:52 Everyone silent please Jul 03 18:37:55 clearqueue Jul 03 18:37:57 next Jul 03 18:37:58 No one is in queue. Jul 03 18:38:01 good. Jul 03 18:38:03 Now Jul 03 18:38:05 * mahendra (65dd80be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.221.128.190) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:38:24 * AnjG (~Anuj@123.63.13.117) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:38:32 ! Jul 03 18:38:52 Text files: I hope everyone here knows what is a text file? If not, then tell no. Jul 03 18:38:56 * zhean1874 (~AndChat33@171.35.144.118) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:38:58 next Jul 03 18:38:58 humpty please ask your question. Jul 03 18:39:04 it was showing me this in the starting.This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify . Jul 03 18:39:05 ! Jul 03 18:39:18 and when i tried to identify, it showed me an error Jul 03 18:39:21 * anna_ (~anna@117.193.33.132) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:39:33 do i need to identify daily? Jul 03 18:39:58 * bnprk has quit (Quit: Bye) Jul 03 18:39:59 * amittima (~amit@182.66.180.42) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:40:00 * bidisha (bidisha@115.253.77.48) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:40:06 humpty, Have you registered it or it is registered by someone else? Jul 03 18:40:07 * PraveenKarol_ (~chatzilla@111.93.99.180) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:40:08 humpty, everytime you start it Jul 03 18:40:19 ! Jul 03 18:40:26 humpty, if it is not your nickname then choose a better nickname Jul 03 18:40:29 next Jul 03 18:40:29 zhean1874 please ask your question.. romil931 you are next. Get ready with your question. Jul 03 18:40:31 kushal, i registered it myself Jul 03 18:40:38 sorry for being late. Jul 03 18:40:40 * bnprk (~vinay.par@112.79.38.229) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:40:44 * ruprela (~dharmesh@106.76.148.225) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:40:50 I missed roll call. I informed I would be away for 10 minutes Jul 03 18:40:50 * sree (~sreedevi@117.217.135.97) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:41:03 EOF Jul 03 18:41:09 how to know whether i am registered or not? Jul 03 18:41:12 humpty, everytime you come to this channel ou have to identify yourself. That's the way the system works Jul 03 18:41:14 Jul 03 18:41:32 *you Jul 03 18:41:45 * prajesh (~prawat@114.143.36.238) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:41:49 * deepu_tp (~deepu_tp@27.7.52.39) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:41:57 * PraveenKarol has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120907231657]) Jul 03 18:41:58 * PraveenKarol_ is now known as PraveenKarol Jul 03 18:42:34 zhean1874, no problem. Jul 03 18:42:35 next Jul 03 18:42:35 romil931 please ask your question. Jul 03 18:43:10 I missed roll call. I had informed I would be away for 10 minutes. Do I get attendance? Jul 03 18:43:25 Jul 03 18:43:30 nmzaheer, got it. Jul 03 18:43:51 ! Jul 03 18:43:52 * harshit93 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) Jul 03 18:43:58 next Jul 03 18:43:59 ruprela please ask your question. Jul 03 18:44:02 is there any way to see how many people are currently online on this channel ? Jul 03 18:44:04 romil931, yes yes Jul 03 18:44:08 * acetakwas (~acetakwas@196.46.245.163) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:44:20 ruprela, yes, look at the list on the right side Jul 03 18:44:33 * sukanya has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) Jul 03 18:44:34 i am using xchat Jul 03 18:44:35 hi, class started yet? Jul 03 18:44:42 and now list is showing Jul 03 18:44:43 *no Jul 03 18:44:52 acetakwas, No, Puja chal raha hai. Jul 03 18:44:56 next Jul 03 18:44:57 No one is in queue. Jul 03 18:45:02 * madangel (uid36493@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gxwernykirnvurwh) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:45:06 what to do ? Jul 03 18:45:16 lol Jul 03 18:45:19 rupela, are you using some irc client? Jul 03 18:45:26 * sukanya (~androirc@101.221.130.129) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:45:31 ruprela, go to view menu, click on the user list Jul 03 18:45:33 sorry, its ruprela Jul 03 18:45:36 * urocksss has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) Jul 03 18:45:46 So everyone knows text files Jul 03 18:45:47 * droy_ (~droy@14.139.212.228) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:45:57 yes Jul 03 18:45:59 It is almost everything about computers Jul 03 18:46:17 It is the easiest way to store data. Jul 03 18:46:38 * debjit has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) Jul 03 18:46:47 * bidisha_ (bidisha@101.56.95.226) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:46:51 ! Jul 03 18:47:04 all our programs are actually text files when we write them. Jul 03 18:47:11 * hari510 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) Jul 03 18:47:15 Later they get compiled into binary files. Jul 03 18:47:18 kushal, when does it start? Jul 03 18:47:32 acetakwas, 6:30pm IST Jul 03 18:48:06 Hey all, can we let kushal finish? Jul 03 18:48:08 * pratik_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 03 18:48:08 * bidisha has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) Jul 03 18:48:08 * pratik46 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 03 18:48:17 * pratik46 (pratik0406@117.246.88.77) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:48:19 * pratik_ (pratik0406@117.246.88.77) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:48:20 So at the very first step to the programming part, we will have to learn a text editor. Jul 03 18:48:22 kushal, okay; what is the time now in IST? Jul 03 18:48:33 acetakwas, 6:48 Jul 03 18:48:42 * chandan_kumar is now known as chandankumar Jul 03 18:48:47 * lutiz (~pearl@59.94.161.29) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:48:55 acetakwas, sorry wrote that stuff in hindi, will use english next time. Jul 03 18:49:05 :D Jul 03 18:49:09 There are many text editors, people fight over them Jul 03 18:49:09 kushal, so how come it's not begun yet? Jul 03 18:49:12 kushal text editor as nano please haha Jul 03 18:49:34 Hey everyone Let him complete Jul 03 18:49:43 acetakwas, it started. Jul 03 18:49:51 acetakwas, that was a sarcasm Jul 03 18:49:56 okay Jul 03 18:50:00 Jul 03 18:50:00 Here we teach only one editor Jul 03 18:50:10 * AndChat|338289 (~AndChat33@171.35.144.118) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:50:10 others you can learn of your own. Jul 03 18:50:15 We teach vim. Jul 03 18:50:31 * mahendra has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) Jul 03 18:50:44 * zhean1874 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 03 18:50:51 You have to install vim package in case you do not have it. Jul 03 18:50:57 Mostly you should have it. Jul 03 18:51:23 * annesha_ (~annesha@117.194.120.64) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:51:26 We have two simple sessions for them Jul 03 18:51:27 how to check whether we have it or not ? Jul 03 18:51:36 http://dgplug.org/irclogs/kushal_vi_1stclass.log and http://dgplug.org/irclogs/kushal_vi_2ndclass.log Jul 03 18:51:49 ruprela, $ locate vim Jul 03 18:51:54 actually Jul 03 18:52:03 $ type vim should do. Jul 03 18:52:13 ! Jul 03 18:52:44 ! Jul 03 18:53:15 next Jul 03 18:53:15 ruprela please ask your question.. deepak_sirone you are next. Get ready with your question. Jul 03 18:53:17 a number of files appeared Jul 03 18:53:25 ruprela, yeah my mistake. Jul 03 18:53:36 ruprela, type vim Jul 03 18:53:38 * tkkr6895 has quit (Quit: tkkr6895) Jul 03 18:53:39 next Jul 03 18:53:39 which vim should also do it Jul 03 18:53:39 deepak_sirone please ask your question.. lutiz you are next. Get ready with your question. Jul 03 18:53:46 kushal, what is the difference between locate and find? Jul 03 18:53:47 * bidisha_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) Jul 03 18:54:22 deepak_sirone, locate searches in a db which generally contains all file information from your computer. Jul 03 18:54:23 next Jul 03 18:54:24 lutiz please ask your question. Jul 03 18:54:31 eof Jul 03 18:54:31 * annesha has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) Jul 03 18:54:33 can we ask onli 'vim' specific questions today ? Jul 03 18:54:40 *only Jul 03 18:54:42 lutiz, ok Jul 03 18:54:46 lutiz, nope. Jul 03 18:54:52 lutiz, any questions actually. Jul 03 18:54:56 next Jul 03 18:54:57 No one is in queue. Jul 03 18:54:57 thnaks , kushal Jul 03 18:54:57 * AnjG has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 03 18:54:59 eof Jul 03 18:55:02 ! Jul 03 18:55:05 next Jul 03 18:55:06 ruprela please ask your question. Jul 03 18:55:08 ! Jul 03 18:55:11 next Jul 03 18:55:12 lutiz please ask your question. Jul 03 18:55:21 * tkkr6895 (~tkkr6895@122.172.202.115) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:55:32 i am unable to implement update command in my linux Jul 03 18:55:44 currently I dont have vim,can gedit work as an alternative for todays class ? Jul 03 18:55:45 it simply has stopped working Jul 03 18:55:55 * vipsy (~vipsy@117.197.19.155) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:56:22 * tkkr6895 (~tkkr6895@122.172.202.115) has left #dgplug Jul 03 18:56:22 ruprela, no Jul 03 18:56:27 does that mean i have to re-install it ? Jul 03 18:56:28 lutiz, did you type sudo apt-get update Jul 03 18:56:30 * AnjG (~Anuj@103.10.208.2) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:56:33 ruprela, which linux distribution are you using? Jul 03 18:56:52 lutiz, ^^^ same question. Jul 03 18:56:57 jupiter, that's exactly what i do each time Jul 03 18:57:04 ! Jul 03 18:57:05 kushal, linux mint Jul 03 18:57:10 ruprela: sudo apt-get install vim Jul 03 18:57:11 * sree is now known as Mactoc Jul 03 18:57:11 * humpty has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) Jul 03 18:57:15 * sukanya has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 03 18:57:21 rahulch1 rahulmishra ralsina ramkrsna ramsan romil931 rtnpro ruprela Jul 03 18:57:27 ruprela, use that command to install vim Jul 03 18:57:31 * sukanya (~androirc@101.221.130.129) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:57:40 ! Jul 03 18:57:42 * acetakwas has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) Jul 03 18:57:43 next Jul 03 18:57:43 annesha_ please ask your question.. siddharth185 you are next. Get ready with your question. Jul 03 18:58:01 ruprella: Run the command sudo apt-get install vim Jul 03 18:58:07 ! Jul 03 18:58:07 next Jul 03 18:58:08 siddharth185 please ask your question.. kanika04 you are next. Get ready with your question. Jul 03 18:58:08 there are a lot of packages for vim,which one should i install? Jul 03 18:58:14 anarang AndChat|338289 AnjG anna_ annesha_ Anupkumar Jul 03 18:58:24 annesha_, are you on Ubuntu or in Fedora? Jul 03 18:58:31 Ubuntu Jul 03 18:58:33 anarang AndChat|338289 AnjG anna_ annesha_ Anupkumar Jul 03 18:58:36 annesha_: vim should do Jul 03 18:58:41 rahulch1 rahulmishra ralsina ramkrsna ramsan romil931 rtnpro ruprela Jul 03 18:58:43 annesha_, same command as ruprela Jul 03 18:58:43 Have you tried githubs new editor called "Atom".what do you about it? Jul 03 18:58:55 Thanks Kushal Jul 03 18:58:56 The following NEW packages will be installed: Jul 03 18:58:56 vim vim-runtime Jul 03 18:58:56 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 298 not upgraded. Jul 03 18:58:56 E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) Jul 03 18:58:56 E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/ Jul 03 18:59:09 what is this error ? Jul 03 18:59:13 siddharth185, that question is completely out of turn for this training. Jul 03 18:59:21 close any package manager Jul 03 18:59:29 * acetakwas (~acetakwas@196.46.245.117) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 18:59:33 ruprela, do you have Ubuntu software manager running? or have some other package being installed? Jul 03 18:59:36 if open Jul 03 18:59:42 identify acetakwas pulchritude Jul 03 18:59:49 lol Jul 03 18:59:53 tch Jul 03 18:59:53 lol Jul 03 19:00:04 that error is because some other updates might be happening Jul 03 19:00:09 not again....my itchy fingers were a bit too fast# Jul 03 19:00:25 * acetakwas has quit (Disconnected by services) Jul 03 19:00:31 * ramkrsna has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 03 19:00:36 * humpty (~chatzilla@122.175.147.14) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:00:39 acetakwas: ^^ lol Jul 03 19:00:50 ruprela working ? Jul 03 19:00:54 * acetakwas (~acetakwas@196.46.245.118) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:01:29 ! Jul 03 19:01:36 * obhee (7b3f0d75@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.123.63.13.117) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:01:42 ! Jul 03 19:01:50 next Jul 03 19:01:51 kanika04 please ask your question.. ruprela you are next. Get ready with your question. Jul 03 19:01:54 next Jul 03 19:01:54 how to install vim in fedora ? Jul 03 19:01:55 ruprela please ask your question.. lutiz you are next. Get ready with your question. Jul 03 19:02:03 * mahendra (670ad002@gateway/web/freenode/ip.103.10.208.2) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:02:04 ruprela, see if some app is getting installed, if not use these 2 commands Jul 03 19:02:05 sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock Jul 03 19:02:10 sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock Jul 03 19:02:11 kanika04, sudo yum install vim Jul 03 19:02:18 leero9,nope Jul 03 19:02:19 kanika04: do sudo yum install vim Jul 03 19:02:21 kanika04, yum install vim Jul 03 19:02:25 kanika04, yum install vim-enhanced Jul 03 19:02:33 kanika04, ^^ as root Jul 03 19:02:48 ok thnks :D Jul 03 19:02:50 Did the installation start at all ? Jul 03 19:02:55 * RohanRoy (~RohanRoy@115.252.232.3) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:02:56 kanika04, thanks. Jul 03 19:02:58 ruprela ? Jul 03 19:03:00 next Jul 03 19:03:01 lutiz please ask your question. Jul 03 19:03:02 * RohanRoy has quit (Client Quit) Jul 03 19:03:03 the update command is not working for me...does this mean that i have to re install my linux ?? Jul 03 19:03:12 leero9, no Jul 03 19:03:14 lutiz, what is the error you are getting? Jul 03 19:03:20 lutiz, "not working for me" is not a problem statement Jul 03 19:03:25 * RohanRoy (~RohanRoy@115.252.232.3) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:03:30 lutiz, paste the error in paste.fedoraproject.org Jul 03 19:03:31 i do not get any message as such Jul 03 19:03:37 ruprela, read my message above Jul 03 19:03:41 lutiz, is it in a vm? Jul 03 19:03:50 * swati has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 03 19:03:50 it just keeps showing 0% Jul 03 19:03:51 just check if its already installed with vim -version Jul 03 19:04:09 lutiz, ask in #ubuntu channel may be. Jul 03 19:04:15 lutiz, is it in a vm? Jul 03 19:04:16 nope...i have mint installed alongside windows Jul 03 19:04:21 lutiz, ok Jul 03 19:04:26 next Jul 03 19:04:26 No one is in queue. Jul 03 19:04:31 ruprela: ls -ltr /etc/alternatives/vi Jul 03 19:04:36 ya sorry. *thanks Jul 03 19:04:41 lutiz, what is the command you used ? Jul 03 19:04:46 * Shankho has quit (Quit: For Sale: Parachute. Only used once, never opened, small stain.) Jul 03 19:04:47 ubuntu's vi is really vim! Jul 03 19:04:58 anarang AndChat|338289 AnjG anna_ annesha_ Anupkumar Jul 03 19:05:04 kanika04, btw, are you anarang's sister? Jul 03 19:05:06 leero9, sudo apt-get update Jul 03 19:05:07 ! Jul 03 19:05:08 * tenstormavi (~tenstorma@101.222.235.89) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:05:10 next Jul 03 19:05:11 shilpi please ask your question. Jul 03 19:05:13 * shrees (0e63c59f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.99.197.159) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:05:21 kushal, yes Jul 03 19:05:27 you already have vim ? Jul 03 19:05:27 kanika04, :) Jul 03 19:05:40 :D Jul 03 19:05:41 how to install vim for fedora ? Jul 03 19:05:41 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Jan 24 16:18 /etc/alternatives/vi -> /usr/bin/vim.tiny Jul 03 19:05:53 shilpi, it's been explained above Jul 03 19:05:55 deepu_tp Jul 03 19:05:57 ah, kushal :D :P Jul 03 19:05:59 kushal: is vim.tiny == vim ? Jul 03 19:06:02 yum install vim Jul 03 19:06:03 from what i recall Jul 03 19:06:07 shilpi: do sudo yum install vim-enhanced Jul 03 19:06:09 shilpi, already answer to kanika04 Jul 03 19:06:11 shilpi sudo yum install vim Jul 03 19:06:23 vim-enhanced is the right command in Fedora Jul 03 19:06:37 amit001, what do those commands do? Jul 03 19:06:48 kushal: ruprela's vi links to /etc/alternatives/vi -> /usr/bin/vim.tiny is that the same? Jul 03 19:07:03 deepu_tp, no clue about Ubuntu, sorry :( Jul 03 19:07:17 deepu_tp, ruprela ask in #ubuntu please Jul 03 19:07:21 deepu_tp start it up and see if it looks like vim, if it does, all good :) Jul 03 19:07:22 * Shankho (~Shankho@27.49.4.122) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:07:38 SpeedBus, thanks, that was the right answer actually :) Jul 03 19:07:49 acetakwas, it deletes the lock, a lock may happen if a an apt-get was halted while executing Jul 03 19:07:54 haha no problems, ill get a screenshot which people can have a look at Jul 03 19:08:13 * vmk (dfb0594e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.176.89.78) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:08:18 * acetakwas_ (~acetakwas@196.46.245.124) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:08:21 acetakwas , those commands actually remove the logs that are written after rm . rm means remove and it will delete thing mentioned in the directory Jul 03 19:08:27 * AndChat|76041 (~AndChat76@123.63.13.117) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:08:40 * ramsan (~chatzilla@123.63.138.34) has left #dgplug Jul 03 19:08:41 here you go, screenshot of Vim : http://i.imgur.com/rgXcTEN.png which you can compare to if needed Jul 03 19:08:46 droy_, thanks Jul 03 19:09:03 * pratik_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) Jul 03 19:09:03 * pratik46 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) Jul 03 19:09:12 acetakwas_, rm command was already in the commands book before. Jul 03 19:09:14 next Jul 03 19:09:15 No one is in queue. Jul 03 19:09:17 * shashank_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 03 19:09:18 people be careful when you sudo rm. Jul 03 19:09:38 especially when using sudo rm -rf Jul 03 19:09:41 kushal, yes Jul 03 19:10:19 * shashank_ (~shashank@118.67.252.66) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:10:19 SpeedBus: Looks the same I have vim.basic Jul 03 19:10:22 Some of the optional features are left out or so I have read just now. Jul 03 19:10:28 * CuriousLearner has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) Jul 03 19:10:31 * obhee (7b3f0d75@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.123.63.13.117) has left #dgplug Jul 03 19:10:34 * toxboi (~toxboi@lopsa/member/toxboi) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:10:52 deepu_tu should be fine, since you just need the text editing ability in it :) Jul 03 19:11:01 * pratik46 (pratik0406@117.235.124.102) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:11:01 * 77CAAPBU4 (pratik0406@117.235.124.102) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:11:06 ! Jul 03 19:11:11 * acetakwas has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) Jul 03 19:11:13 next Jul 03 19:11:14 stguin please ask your question. Jul 03 19:11:14 lot of people are sitting quiet today Jul 03 19:11:16 * Prash_542 has quit (Quit: Page closed) Jul 03 19:11:19 bibhas, yeah Jul 03 19:11:22 use i flag when you use rm , so it notifies before deletion , like rm -i Jul 03 19:11:35 yeah you can set that in the .bashrc as well Jul 03 19:11:38 * ruprela has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 03 19:11:44 iirc centos/fedora have that added already Jul 03 19:11:47 same for mv as well Jul 03 19:11:53 * abhi_poo (~abhi_poo@114.79.178.187) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:11:53 SpeedBus, yes, for root accounts Jul 03 19:11:54 iamviknesh, +1 Jul 03 19:12:00 kushal ah Jul 03 19:12:12 stguin, you question? Jul 03 19:12:14 what it would be i use vm Jul 03 19:12:16 * ruprela (~dharmesh@106.76.148.225) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:12:22 stguin, ? Jul 03 19:12:30 * CuriousLearner (3bb2ce1a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.178.206.26) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:12:37 stguin, sorry never understood that, can you ask again please? Jul 03 19:12:54 ! Jul 03 19:12:55 i mean how can i install vim in vm Jul 03 19:13:03 ! Jul 03 19:13:08 ! Jul 03 19:13:35 stguin, what OS is installed on your vm? Jul 03 19:13:45 stguin if it's fedora, sudo yum install vim* else if it's ubuntu based sudo apt-get update && apt-get install vim Jul 03 19:13:57 er if ubuntu sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vim Jul 03 19:14:01 * mahendra_ (~mahendra@103.10.208.2) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:14:08 next Jul 03 19:14:09 CuriousLearner please ask your question.. Shankho you are next. Get ready with your question. Jul 03 19:14:16 fedora Jul 03 19:14:21 sudo yum install vim* Jul 03 19:14:22 I've two things to say, 1st today I'm facing net problems and forced to reconnect again and again, that's why I missed attendence too... 1nd, Was just installing vim in fedora, but I got this error : Transaction check error: file /usr/share/man/man1/vim.1.gz from install of vim-common-2:7.4.179-1.fc20.x86_64 conflicts with file from package vim-minimal-2:7.4.027-2.fc20.x86_64 Jul 03 19:14:25 * deepak_sirone has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 03 19:14:25 ! Jul 03 19:14:32 SpeedBus, why do you need update command? Jul 03 19:14:38 just in case he hasnt done it yet :) Jul 03 19:14:40 thanks SpeedBus Jul 03 19:14:53 :) Jul 03 19:14:56 CuriousLearner yum remove vim* and then yum install vim* Jul 03 19:14:57 * urocksss (~androirc@117.228.71.76) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:15:19 * mahendra has quit (Quit: Page closed) Jul 03 19:15:20 nmzaheer , the update command updates package lists Jul 03 19:15:21 * urocksss has quit (Client Quit) Jul 03 19:15:28 CuriousLearner, first do yum update Jul 03 19:15:37 * deepak_sirone (~deepak@117.241.56.200) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:15:37 CuriousLearner, that should fix your problems Jul 03 19:15:51 ok, doing. Jul 03 19:15:51 next Jul 03 19:15:52 Shankho please ask your question.. leero9 you are next. Get ready with your question. Jul 03 19:16:00 I can find a GVim on software center. Is it the same you are talking about? Jul 03 19:16:14 * CuriousLearner_ (3bb2ce1a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.178.206.26) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:16:14 * CuriousLearner_ has quit (Client Quit) Jul 03 19:16:25 * ruprela has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 03 19:16:28 it's vim with a graphical interface Jul 03 19:16:32 GVim is graphical vim iirc Jul 03 19:16:34 should be fine Jul 03 19:16:42 Shankho: its graphical version of vim Jul 03 19:16:43 SpeedBus, actually no Jul 03 19:16:52 * anuragkr (~anurag@182.66.143.171) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:16:52 Shankho, install only vim Jul 03 19:17:04 * 77CAAPBU4 has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 03 19:17:06 as during training you will learn how to use command line tools Jul 03 19:17:14 from where ? Jul 03 19:17:17 * pratik_ (pratik0406@117.235.124.102) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:17:19 start up terminal Jul 03 19:17:19 GVim will not help you in that Jul 03 19:17:28 Shankho, sudo apt-get install vim Jul 03 19:17:44 * mahendra_ is now known as m_k_ Jul 03 19:17:49 * vmk has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) Jul 03 19:17:58 * shashank_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 03 19:18:09 * ruprela (~dharmesh@106.78.12.151) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:18:15 * titli has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 03 19:18:17 next Jul 03 19:18:18 leero9 please ask your question.. lutiz you are next. Get ready with your question. Jul 03 19:18:21 I never really understood why most of the courses ask us to learn vim, when we have more easier text editors like gedit, why vim ? Jul 03 19:18:21 * ruprela has quit (Client Quit) Jul 03 19:18:33 can't type password. Don't know why? Keyboard working fine Jul 03 19:18:54 Shankho, sudo does not show your password Jul 03 19:18:57 * ruprela (~dharmesh@106.78.12.151) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:19:00 Shanko, you won't see the password getting typed.Just type it and hit enter Jul 03 19:19:00 :D Jul 03 19:19:08 * obhee (7b3f0d75@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.123.63.13.117) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:19:11 :| Jul 03 19:19:14 * amittima has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 03 19:19:16 okay Jul 03 19:19:19 Shankho, :D Jul 03 19:19:20 shanko: in linux it would never show your password, just type and hit enter it'll accept it Jul 03 19:19:20 * heena_ (~heena@223.176.67.224) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:19:28 * amittima (~amit@182.66.180.42) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:19:32 leero9, because when you will have to connect to a server half way around the world, gedit can not help you to edit files there. Jul 03 19:19:48 shankho, it must be your first time using the tty Jul 03 19:20:07 leero9, also with a proper editor training, you can do things super fast, be it in vim or emacs Jul 03 19:20:07 oh ! Not an every day situation then Jul 03 19:20:25 leero9, for us it is a everyday situation Jul 03 19:20:27 * alec (7b3f8a22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.63.138.34) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:20:32 * vmk (b64295d7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.66.149.215) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:20:33 leero9, it's an everyhour situation for a developer Jul 03 19:20:34 leero9: also because of the speed you can attain after you get through the steep learning curve Jul 03 19:20:57 ! Jul 03 19:20:59 I always skipped it for gedit :| Jul 03 19:20:59 bibhas, leero9 or every minute depending on your job :) Jul 03 19:21:04 nex Jul 03 19:21:06 next Jul 03 19:21:08 * titli (~tdas@14.99.155.5) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:21:09 lutiz please ask your question.. nmzaheer you are next. Get ready with your question. Jul 03 19:21:10 acetakwas : Yes was stuck with a vm problem. Jul 03 19:21:11 does intalling and running linux in a vm affect the system otherwise ? Jul 03 19:21:15 * alec has quit (Client Quit) Jul 03 19:21:16 lutiz, no Jul 03 19:21:17 next Jul 03 19:21:18 nmzaheer please ask your question. Jul 03 19:21:35 In what encoding does files in vim get saved? Jul 03 19:21:58 * heena has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) Jul 03 19:22:19 I remember having this problem where Windows had CR+LF and Linux had only LF or something like that. Jul 03 19:22:34 Shankho, okay Jul 03 19:22:38 nmzaheer: depends on file extension you enter during file creation Jul 03 19:22:59 nmzaheer, what are CR and LF ? Jul 03 19:23:11 nmzaheer: Latin-1 (source : http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/23389/how-can-i-set-vims-default-encoding-to-utf-8) Jul 03 19:23:18 CR - Carriage return LF - line feed Jul 03 19:23:19 nmzaheer, Depends Jul 03 19:23:29 * obhee has quit (Client Quit) Jul 03 19:23:32 * anarang has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 03 19:23:38 nmzaheer, ok Jul 03 19:24:20 next Jul 03 19:24:21 No one is in queue. Jul 03 19:24:31 One point for everyone. Jul 03 19:24:40 Unless you ask questions, it will not help you. Jul 03 19:24:59 You have to learn how to throw away your fear and start asking questions. Jul 03 19:25:00 ! Jul 03 19:25:06 In every part of you life. Jul 03 19:25:06 * AndChat|76041 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jul 03 19:25:07 next Jul 03 19:25:08 RohanRoy please ask your question. Jul 03 19:25:11 which is good nano or vim or sublime Jul 03 19:25:14 * ruprela has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Jul 03 19:25:17 ! Jul 03 19:25:29 RohanRoy, sublime is not terminal based text editorl. Jul 03 19:25:42 ! Jul 03 19:25:43 RohanRoy, between nano and vim, vim is better. Jul 03 19:25:44 next Jul 03 19:25:45 deepak_sirone please ask your question.. titli you are next. Get ready with your question. Jul 03 19:25:47 oh yea sorry Jul 03 19:25:53 * AnjG has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 03 19:26:04 its emacs Jul 03 19:26:15 CR and LF, what is the difference? Jul 03 19:26:38 * Deccan (7b3f8a22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.63.138.34) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:26:46 ! Jul 03 19:26:52 deepak_sirone, google.com Jul 03 19:26:53 next Jul 03 19:26:54 titli please ask your question. Jul 03 19:26:56 why you chose vim from all others? Jul 03 19:27:04 titli, because I like it. Jul 03 19:27:10 :D Jul 03 19:27:11 deepak_sirone, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3091524/what-are-carriage-return-linefeed-and-form-feed Jul 03 19:27:12 Jupiter, ask your question? Jul 03 19:27:22 nmzaheer, thanks Jul 03 19:27:48 How does < | << symbols work? Jul 03 19:28:00 Jupiter, pipe? Jul 03 19:28:01 ! Jul 03 19:28:06 * ruprela (~dkrdharme@106.78.12.151) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:28:13 * silentSae has quit (Quit: Leaving) Jul 03 19:28:33 Jupiter, http://ryanstutorials.net/linuxtutorial/piping.php Jul 03 19:28:34 * Karthik_B has quit (Quit: Page closed) Jul 03 19:28:40 I read about it but didn't understand what is happening there Jul 03 19:28:49 ! Jul 03 19:28:54 * obhee (670ad002@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.103.10.208.2) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:29:13 Jupiter, pipes are used to redirect one's output as another's input. Jul 03 19:29:21 Jupiter, in case you know C/C++ http://www2.cs.uregina.ca/~hamilton/courses/330/notes/unix/pipes/pipes.html Jul 03 19:29:26 Jupiter, > symbols overwrites the file, and >> appends the text to a file Jul 03 19:29:38 * AndChat|76041 (~AndChat76@103.10.208.2) has joined #dgplug Jul 03 19:29:44 * acetakwas_ has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) Jul 03 19:29:56 vipsy, where did you get > and >> ? Jul 03 19:30:00 okay, thank you Jul 03 19:30:06 So everyone try out those two vim logs tonight and tomorrow, classes start at the same time. Jul 03 19:30:11 --------SESSION ENDS------------