Jul 05 18:59:58 ----Ok Lets Start--- Jul 05 19:00:09 Todays class is on Mediawiki formatting Jul 05 19:00:12 Roll Call Jul 05 19:00:26 Manali Nandan Jul 05 19:00:27 Sarbartha Sengupta Jul 05 19:00:32 Ratnadeep Debnath Jul 05 19:00:34 Manash Pal Jul 05 19:00:38 koyel banerjee Jul 05 19:00:40 Rohit Kumar Gupta Jul 05 19:00:45 Kishan Goyal Jul 05 19:00:45 Harsh verma Jul 05 19:00:48 Dibyanshu jaiswal Jul 05 19:00:49 Sudipta Dhara Jul 05 19:01:13 Dipanjan Chakraborty Jul 05 19:01:42 Vivek Khurana :p Jul 05 19:01:42 Does everyone have the link to the presentation for tonights class? Jul 05 19:01:51 yes Jul 05 19:01:57 yes Jul 05 19:01:57 yes Jul 05 19:02:04 yes Jul 05 19:02:05 yes. Jul 05 19:02:05 yes Jul 05 19:02:07 ya Jul 05 19:02:13 yes Jul 05 19:02:15 http://www.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=Mediawiki_training Jul 05 19:02:27 If anyone has questions you use '!' Jul 05 19:02:34 * kushal (n=kdas@fedora/kushal) has joined #dgplug Jul 05 19:02:35 zer0c00l: if you are attending the class please state your name Jul 05 19:02:50 stephdg: Arun SAG Jul 05 19:03:02 Meejanur Rahaman Jul 05 19:03:54 stephdg, roll call over ? Jul 05 19:04:09 kushal: yes Jul 05 19:04:28 stephdg, ok, go ahead Jul 05 19:04:50 There are many different types of Wiki software, today we are only going to look at mediawiki. Jul 05 19:05:28 Ok, we are going to start with the presentation Jul 05 19:05:44 The first section deals with setting up your User account and User page Jul 05 19:06:20 Please open the URL http://training.burntomlette.in Jul 05 19:07:03 We are going to use this test wiki to learn about Mediawiki formatting Jul 05 19:07:23 * indranil (n=indranil@pdpc/supporter/student/indranil) has joined #dgplug Jul 05 19:08:15 Everybody should be on the first page of the mediawiki presentation Jul 05 19:08:21 http://www.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=Mediawiki_training Jul 05 19:08:57 Now as you can see the instructions to set up your user page are already given there, and we are going to follow these instructions to set up a User Account on the training site Jul 05 19:09:35 * zer0c00l_ (n=zer0c00l@117.199.139.163) has joined #dgplug Jul 05 19:09:39 Go ahead and set up your account using the tab on the top right of the browser that says log in Jul 05 19:09:47 * rahulsen002 (i=75c204e5@gateway/web/freenode/x-48ce03fb2a4efa99) has joined #dgplug Jul 05 19:10:47 Once you have created your user account everyone can go to http://training.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers and you should be able to see your user account as well as the other accounts that are being created Jul 05 19:11:00 rahul sen present Jul 05 19:11:11 Right now I can see dipanjan and rohitkg have already created their accounts Jul 05 19:11:43 rahulsen002: http://training.burntomlette.in go here and set up a user account Jul 05 19:12:02 ok ma'am Jul 05 19:12:09 and you should be following this http://www.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=Mediawiki_training for the instructions rahulsen002 Jul 05 19:12:21 * kopecks89 (n=koyel@117.201.96.155) has joined #dgplug Jul 05 19:13:02 Once you are done setting up your user accounts please tell me Jul 05 19:13:16 done Jul 05 19:13:20 I have created the account Jul 05 19:13:29 done Jul 05 19:13:40 done. Jul 05 19:13:46 done Jul 05 19:14:03 done , username:sagarun Jul 05 19:14:07 stephdg, I am already logged in Jul 05 19:14:33 Ok, the next step would be to click on your user name and set up your User Page Jul 05 19:14:35 Manali done Jul 05 19:14:40 Manash done Jul 05 19:14:49 There you should put your name, and your email address Jul 05 19:15:14 done Jul 05 19:15:41 done Jul 05 19:16:19 Is anybody having any problems so far? If not we will move on to section 2 Jul 05 19:16:24 done Jul 05 19:16:32 ok no problem Jul 05 19:16:41 * kopecks has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jul 05 19:16:47 ! Jul 05 19:16:58 done. Jul 05 19:17:01 zer0c00l_: yes, what is your question? Jul 05 19:17:10 created the account, logged in. but can't see my name in http://training.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers Jul 05 19:17:26 zer0c00l_: what user ID did you use? Jul 05 19:17:54 sorry , i created an account in http://www.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=Main_Page Jul 05 19:18:14 that would be why your user id is not showing on that page Jul 05 19:18:33 http://training.burntomlette.in zer0c00l_ go here and re-set it up Jul 05 19:18:51 zer0c00l_: now I see your User ID Jul 05 19:19:00 stephdg, done Jul 05 19:19:34 Ok, everyone click on the link at the bottom of the first page of the presentation and we will go on to Section 2 Jul 05 19:19:48 The next section is about Formatting your User page Jul 05 19:20:01 stephdg, done Jul 05 19:20:50 There are a few different ways you can format the text on your page Jul 05 19:20:51 stephdg, done Jul 05 19:21:15 stephdg, done Jul 05 19:21:16 * chandana (n=chandana@124.124.155.17) has joined #dgplug Jul 05 19:21:43 stephdg, done Jul 05 19:21:44 done Jul 05 19:21:54 done Jul 05 19:22:00 both of us ....... done Jul 05 19:22:02 Lets put some text in your pages, lets put the name of your University, your College, and your High School on three different lines in your page Jul 05 19:22:46 * hemant_ (i=75c2e64b@gateway/web/freenode/x-87435d9d905d6eba) has joined #dgplug Jul 05 19:23:29 hemant_: please open http://training.burntomlette.in/ and http://www.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=Mediawiki_training Jul 05 19:24:06 done Jul 05 19:24:10 Next, I want you to write the names of 4 papers you had to study in the last semester Jul 05 19:24:22 each paper on a seperate line Jul 05 19:25:19 page opened Jul 05 19:25:42 * zer0c00l has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Jul 05 19:26:13 Now we are going to learn how to make text bold Jul 05 19:26:14 last semester we studied: Jul 05 19:26:23 hemant_: please put that in your User page Jul 05 19:26:33 communication and networking Jul 05 19:26:37 and before you ask questions you need to send a '!' Jul 05 19:27:10 DONE Jul 05 19:27:33 Done Jul 05 19:27:34 Manali: all upper case is equal to shouting, and is not acceptable Jul 05 19:28:03 Now on the first line of the schools, put 3 single quotes like -> ''' on each end of the line Jul 05 19:28:04 sorry... it was unintensional Jul 05 19:28:11 and refresh your pages Jul 05 19:28:17 and save your page first, then refresh Jul 05 19:28:52 Manali: ok Jul 05 19:28:53 stephdg, user page created Jul 05 19:29:00 * ssaha (n=shinjan@117.194.231.214) has joined #dgplug Jul 05 19:29:44 done Jul 05 19:29:51 done Jul 05 19:29:59 done Jul 05 19:30:01 done Jul 05 19:30:18 Now, we are going to learn how to make text italicized Jul 05 19:30:46 done Jul 05 19:30:47 The line where you put your college name, put 2 single quotes like -> '' on the end of each line Jul 05 19:30:57 on the end of that line Jul 05 19:31:02 * dipanjan_ (i=75c260e0@gateway/web/freenode/x-9326418716cc4085) has joined #dgplug Jul 05 19:31:12 sorry, opera had crashed Jul 05 19:31:43 ssaha: please open http://training.burntomlette.in/ and http://www.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=Mediawiki_training Jul 05 19:32:03 done Jul 05 19:32:05 ! Jul 05 19:32:14 * dipanjan has quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) Jul 05 19:32:37 * dipanjan_ (i=75c260e0@gateway/web/freenode/x-9326418716cc4085) has left #dgplug Jul 05 19:32:38 dipanjan_: what is your question? Jul 05 19:32:46 done Jul 05 19:32:53 done Jul 05 19:33:07 stephdg, done. Jul 05 19:33:10 Does anybody have any questions? Jul 05 19:33:13 * dipanjan (i=75c260e0@gateway/web/freenode/x-97d6373d63ed4b7d) has joined #dgplug Jul 05 19:33:17 no Jul 05 19:33:21 no Jul 05 19:33:21 dipanjan: what is your question? Jul 05 19:33:49 why are the subjects appearing in a strange bos? http://training.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=User:Dipanjan Jul 05 19:34:14 dipanjan: that will be fixed in a moment Jul 05 19:34:16 nope Jul 05 19:34:58 now we are going to learn how to make your text both italicized and bold Jul 05 19:35:11 dipanjan: follow the class and you will see why it is like that Jul 05 19:35:38 now for the University line put 5 single quotes like -> ''''' on both sides of the text Jul 05 19:35:44 stephdg, I must have missed a bit, my browser had crashed Jul 05 19:36:13 dipanjan: follow the class and you can go over the log later Jul 05 19:36:22 ok Jul 05 19:36:27 both of us... done Jul 05 19:36:38 i have created an account in training.burntomlette Jul 05 19:36:48 done Jul 05 19:36:55 done Jul 05 19:36:57 done Jul 05 19:36:58 done Jul 05 19:37:04 done Jul 05 19:37:07 done bold+italicised Jul 05 19:37:08 Spaces at the beginning of a line has a specific meaning to mediawiki formatting Jul 05 19:37:37 so, if you are not looking for surprising results or unless you specifically intend it do *not* put extra spaces in front of a line Jul 05 19:37:37 done Jul 05 19:37:41 done Jul 05 19:37:52 done Jul 05 19:37:55 anybody has any questions? Jul 05 19:37:55 done Jul 05 19:38:08 about bold and italicizing text? Jul 05 19:38:10 i fixed the boxes. Jul 05 19:38:47 ok, now on to learning how to input bullets Jul 05 19:38:53 ! i hav written the subjects , do i need to do something else Jul 05 19:38:57 ! Jul 05 19:39:20 hemant_: follow the instructions given, if you have a question raise '!' first, and wait for me to ask you for your question Jul 05 19:39:27 djthequest: yes? Jul 05 19:39:55 the text in user page appear in one line Jul 05 19:40:23 djthequest: please paste me the link to your page Jul 05 19:40:54 http://www.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=User:Dibyanshu Jul 05 19:41:48 For everyone who has come in late the training excercises are to be done here: http://training.burntomlette.in/ Jul 05 19:41:54 i have entered my details Jul 05 19:42:47 A empty line is needed between each line of text or else it will all be in one paragrah Jul 05 19:42:50 paragraph* Jul 05 19:43:01 djthequest: see above ^^ Jul 05 19:43:17 Anybody else have any questions? Jul 05 19:43:18 stephdg: eof Jul 05 19:43:28 no Jul 05 19:43:28 done Jul 05 19:43:32 no Jul 05 19:43:46 Ok, now we will learn how to make bulletized lists Jul 05 19:43:47 ! Jul 05 19:43:50 hemant_: yes? Jul 05 19:44:13 i have entered my details now what shall i do Jul 05 19:44:24 hemant_: follow the class and you will see Jul 05 19:44:37 i have entered my details as said Jul 05 19:45:17 hemant_: you are supposed to be using the http://training.burntomlette.in Jul 05 19:46:10 Now, everyone put a * followed by a space in front of the three lines that consist of your college, university, and high school Jul 05 19:46:15 save and refresh your page Jul 05 19:46:53 done Jul 05 19:47:02 You will see that the * creates bullets in front of those lines Jul 05 19:47:09 yes Jul 05 19:47:10 done Jul 05 19:47:11 done Jul 05 19:47:13 done Jul 05 19:47:15 done Jul 05 19:47:18 yup. Jul 05 19:47:28 both...done Jul 05 19:47:30 yes Jul 05 19:47:32 done Jul 05 19:47:33 Now, we will learn how to do a numbered list Jul 05 19:47:37 yes Jul 05 19:47:53 done Jul 05 19:47:59 done Jul 05 19:48:00 Put a # (hash sign) followed by a space in front of each of the lines that contain the subjects Jul 05 19:48:15 done Jul 05 19:48:31 done Jul 05 19:48:33 done Jul 05 19:48:44 done Jul 05 19:48:46 done Jul 05 19:48:59 ! Jul 05 19:49:02 each one is showing 1 Jul 05 19:49:03 sarbartha: yes? Jul 05 19:49:16 done Jul 05 19:49:22 same problem as ssaha Jul 05 19:49:24 all subjects are numbered a 1. Jul 05 19:49:29 same problem here Jul 05 19:49:30 yes Jul 05 19:49:33 same prob Jul 05 19:49:35 dats the problem Jul 05 19:49:57 ssaha: use proper english, sms is not acceptable Jul 05 19:50:09 that's because they didn't remove the lines in between th eother lines Jul 05 19:50:11 i am sorry Jul 05 19:50:18 problem solved Jul 05 19:50:23 the other* Jul 05 19:50:41 sarbartha: Describe the solution Jul 05 19:50:41 ! Jul 05 19:50:47 kopecks89: yes? Jul 05 19:50:50 i am getting the # in the output,stepdg Jul 05 19:51:01 remove the blank line between the subjects Jul 05 19:51:01 ok Jul 05 19:51:03 done Jul 05 19:51:06 done stephdg Jul 05 19:51:09 dipanjan: very good work Jul 05 19:51:13 both...done Jul 05 19:51:13 solved the problem Jul 05 19:51:21 stephdg: thanks Jul 05 19:51:33 done Jul 05 19:51:57 kopecks89: please remove all the spaces before the #'s Jul 05 19:52:22 done Jul 05 19:52:43 * zer0c00l_ is now known as zer0c00l Jul 05 19:52:44 yes.it worked Jul 05 19:52:48 Pay attention everyone! Jul 05 19:52:50 [19:37] Spaces at the beginning of a line has a specific meaning to mediawiki formatting Jul 05 19:52:51 [19:37] so, if you are not looking for surprising results or unless you specifically intend it do *not* put extra spaces in front of a line Jul 05 19:53:04 kopecks89: remember that ^^ Jul 05 19:53:19 If nobody has any questions we will move on to creating tables Jul 05 19:53:24 ! Jul 05 19:53:39 stephdg, ! Jul 05 19:53:49 djthequest: yes? Jul 05 19:53:55 yevlempy: yes? Jul 05 19:54:17 can we have any other symbol for the bullets? Jul 05 19:54:25 stephdg, i did not get the last step. Jul 05 19:54:48 djthequest: read Mediawiki help manual Jul 05 19:54:50 online Jul 05 19:55:11 ok. Jul 05 19:55:19 yevlempy: You needed to put 4 subjects you studied last semester under the schools, and put the # 's before those Jul 05 19:55:35 ! Jul 05 19:55:43 zer0c00l: yes? Jul 05 19:55:45 stephdg, wikipedia uses media wiki? Jul 05 19:56:07 stephdg, yes but 1 is coming everywhere. Jul 05 19:56:13 zer0c00l: yes Jul 05 19:56:18 and the name is Mediawiki Jul 05 19:56:43 yevlempy, don't keep empty lines between lines while numbering Jul 05 19:56:57 yevlempy: http://training.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=User:Dipanjan look here and see Jul 05 19:57:09 You can go to each others pages and look at the code by clicking on the edit option Jul 05 19:57:26 stephdg, i get it. Jul 05 19:57:33 rtnpro, thanks. Jul 05 19:57:38 yevlempy, if you do so, it means, starting a new sequence in each line, hence each line reads 1 Jul 05 19:57:48 yevlempy, welcome :) Jul 05 19:57:49 Ok, Now if there are no more questions we will go on to learning how to create tables Jul 05 19:58:14 rtnpro: if you have inputs to add you should first ask permission Jul 05 19:58:41 stephdg, ok Jul 05 19:59:04 Ok, there are different ways to format tables, with borders, without borders, with background color, no background color, as well as you can change the font color Jul 05 20:00:01 you should be following the instructions in the presentation, http://burntomlette.in/index.php?title=Mediawiki_formatting#Creating_Tables Jul 05 20:00:51 {| needs to be on the first line when creating a table Jul 05 20:01:22 and |+ needs to follow Jul 05 20:01:49 Then you will see the ! is preceding the name, user id, and email subjects, the ! creates a column header Jul 05 20:02:25 |- is needed to define the new row Jul 05 20:02:32 * Manali1 (n=Administ@59.93.243.242) has joined #dgplug Jul 05 20:02:58 if you know html it can be thought of being equivalent to Jul 05 20:03:06 sorry ..got disconnected....... Jul 05 20:03:26 ! Jul 05 20:03:31 Manali1: yes? Jul 05 20:03:34 ! Jul 05 20:03:35 stephdg, ! Jul 05 20:03:36 * Manali has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jul 05 20:03:37 djthequest: yes? Jul 05 20:03:40 yevlempy: yes? Jul 05 20:03:50 we missed from the start of creation of tables Jul 05 20:04:01 how is column width decided? Jul 05 20:04:04 Manali1: follow this link http://burntomlette.in/index.php?title=Mediawiki_formatting#Creating_Tables Jul 05 20:04:15 stephdg, can we use html codes in formatting mediawiki. Jul 05 20:04:16 djthequest: by default by the size of the text Jul 05 20:04:43 done Jul 05 20:04:45 yevlempy: this is a out of scope question I will answer later Jul 05 20:04:59 is alignment optional? Jul 05 20:05:06 stephdg, ok. Jul 05 20:05:08 djthequest: follow the class Jul 05 20:05:32 ok, everyone start a table with the headers of name, subject, and marks Jul 05 20:06:04 and you need to add 2 rows of entries Jul 05 20:06:14 to have 3 columns Jul 05 20:07:07 when creating column entries this -> || is used to signify the end of one column and the beginning of another Jul 05 20:07:20 there is no pipe needed at the end of final column Jul 05 20:07:55 done Jul 05 20:07:57 also when you are done creating the table you need to use |} to signify the end of the table Jul 05 20:08:15 done Jul 05 20:08:38 done Jul 05 20:08:52 done ma'am Jul 05 20:09:04 done Jul 05 20:09:14 done Jul 05 20:09:14 Everyone look at this page http://training.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=User:Sarbartha Jul 05 20:09:21 once you are done with your page Jul 05 20:09:32 done Jul 05 20:09:37 we will use sarbartha's page as an example Jul 05 20:09:49 to illustrate column width Jul 05 20:09:54 done Jul 05 20:10:13 both.. done Jul 05 20:10:30 done. Jul 05 20:10:38 both done Jul 05 20:11:16 Has everyone been able to create a table? Jul 05 20:11:24 done Jul 05 20:11:25 yes Jul 05 20:11:26 yes. Jul 05 20:11:29 yes Jul 05 20:11:30 yes Jul 05 20:11:32 yes Jul 05 20:11:33 yes Jul 05 20:11:36 yes Jul 05 20:11:37 yes Jul 05 20:11:44 yes Jul 05 20:11:44 yes Jul 05 20:11:44 yes Jul 05 20:11:48 done Jul 05 20:11:50 everyone look at http://training.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=User:Sarbartha Jul 05 20:11:51 yes Jul 05 20:11:54 yes Jul 05 20:12:10 yes Jul 05 20:12:34 sarbartha: increase the length of the second row second column entry to at least 15 characters and let me know when complete Jul 05 20:13:45 since sarbartha doesn't seem to be online, I will be editing his page Jul 05 20:14:18 now please refresh the page and look again Jul 05 20:14:41 the page to refresh is http://training.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=User:Sarbartha which you should already have open by now Jul 05 20:15:01 yes Jul 05 20:15:04 Has everyone had a chance to see the difference? Jul 05 20:15:04 sry network prob Jul 05 20:15:05 yes opened Jul 05 20:15:10 yes Jul 05 20:15:15 yes Jul 05 20:15:20 yes Jul 05 20:15:26 yes Jul 05 20:15:33 yes Jul 05 20:15:37 yes Jul 05 20:15:38 yes Jul 05 20:15:42 yes opened Jul 05 20:15:50 Ok, if there are no questions we will now go on to learning how to put borders around the table and change the font Jul 05 20:15:51 ya Jul 05 20:15:56 the font color Jul 05 20:16:15 how to increase that by 15 chars? Jul 05 20:16:32 i mean characters...sorry! Jul 05 20:16:36 rahulsen002: for questions you need to raise '!' then ask Jul 05 20:16:41 what is the difference? Jul 05 20:16:42 stephdg, ! Jul 05 20:16:44 oh sorry Jul 05 20:16:47 ! Jul 05 20:16:47 rtnpro: yes? Jul 05 20:16:55 rahulsen002: yes? Jul 05 20:16:59 how to increase that by 15 chars? Jul 05 20:17:10 rahulsen002: how have you been editing your page so far? Jul 05 20:17:20 stephdg, the column size = max( column size of any row) ? Jul 05 20:17:40 I have been following your instructions and the link given Jul 05 20:17:40 rtnpro: yes Jul 05 20:17:42 ! Jul 05 20:17:46 ssaha: yes? Jul 05 20:17:56 stephdg, ok Jul 05 20:18:07 why we are not giving the alignment for each column? Jul 05 20:18:21 ssaha: we are getting the default alignment Jul 05 20:18:33 which is left aligned Jul 05 20:18:55 then we are only aligning the first column? Jul 05 20:19:16 ssaha: we have not gotten to the alignment portion Jul 05 20:19:23 ok Jul 05 20:19:57 ok, now, to align your tables you would use align="center"| Jul 05 20:20:11 or you could use align="right"| Jul 05 20:20:28 everyone edit your tables so the center column is center aligned Jul 05 20:20:57 done Jul 05 20:21:03 done Jul 05 20:21:14 done Jul 05 20:21:25 done Jul 05 20:21:26 done Jul 05 20:21:28 done Jul 05 20:21:30 done Jul 05 20:21:36 done. Jul 05 20:21:38 done Jul 05 20:21:46 done Jul 05 20:22:05 Ok, now we are going to learn how to change the background and font color of our tables Jul 05 20:22:17 ! Jul 05 20:22:19 done Jul 05 20:22:20 here is a link that will tell you the font colors: http://qed.princeton.edu/index.php/MediaWiki:Color_Names Jul 05 20:22:22 dipanjan: yes? Jul 05 20:22:29 done... both Jul 05 20:22:42 done Jul 05 20:22:53 border="1"; style="background:powderblue; color:navy" <- This line would follow {| Jul 05 20:23:01 can we specify the aignments for all entries in a column, or do we need to do it individually? Jul 05 20:23:11 done Jul 05 20:23:14 dipanjan: you would need to do it individually Jul 05 20:23:23 ok Jul 05 20:23:33 Now everyone choose 2 different colors and edit your tables Jul 05 20:24:19 i didn't get you please. Jul 05 20:24:45 kopecks89: what didn't you understand? Jul 05 20:24:46 done Jul 05 20:25:00 done Jul 05 20:25:13 i meant is the two different colors one powderblue and the other navy blue? Jul 05 20:25:17 done Jul 05 20:25:37 ! Jul 05 20:25:49 kopecks89: yes, the first one is for the background color and the second color is the font color Jul 05 20:25:51 kopecks89: yes? Jul 05 20:25:56 how about if we want to put different colors in different rows? Jul 05 20:26:26 done Jul 05 20:26:31 done Jul 05 20:26:32 done Jul 05 20:26:41 kopecks89: that is an exercise for you to find out Jul 05 20:26:47 ok Jul 05 20:27:09 done Jul 05 20:27:15 ! Jul 05 20:27:27 kopecks89: if you really can't figure it out, please ask me later on IRC Jul 05 20:27:30 rahulsen002: yes? Jul 05 20:28:13 do not forget to include border="1" to put a border around your tables Jul 05 20:28:16 ! Jul 05 20:28:21 how would i know about different colors? eg. powderblue color was not known to me...........is there any list for all the colors available? Jul 05 20:28:35 done Jul 05 20:28:39 rahulsen002: http://qed.princeton.edu/index.php/MediaWiki:Color_Names Jul 05 20:28:48 Manali1: yes? Jul 05 20:29:09 ! Jul 05 20:29:13 ! Jul 05 20:29:14 solved...thank you Jul 05 20:29:18 the output doesn't seem to match with that in the study material Jul 05 20:29:20 kishan: yes? Jul 05 20:29:24 dipanjan: yes? Jul 05 20:29:27 in what ways Manali1? Jul 05 20:29:34 stephdg: not getting border : http://training.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=User:Kishan Jul 05 20:29:46 i don't see the border despite the border="1" parameter Jul 05 20:29:47 ! Jul 05 20:30:00 the table has borders over there for each cell of the table Jul 05 20:30:25 I have got correct output Jul 05 20:30:54 me too Jul 05 20:31:06 ! Jul 05 20:31:13 kopecks89: yes? Jul 05 20:31:16 i think we need to provide a space before border Jul 05 20:31:17 yes i have changed the colors but somehow the header had shrunk!http://www.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=User:Kopecks89 Jul 05 20:32:07 stephdg: ? Jul 05 20:32:54 i think we need to put a space after "1" Jul 05 20:32:56 stephdg: ok... got it. Jul 05 20:32:58 ! Jul 05 20:33:02 Manali1: yes? Jul 05 20:33:05 i got it correct that way Jul 05 20:33:10 ! Jul 05 20:33:14 stephdg: can i answer kopecks89 Jul 05 20:33:20 djthequest: yes Jul 05 20:33:36 i think removing the semicolon after border removes the problem Jul 05 20:34:05 kopecks89: you have ended the table using |} after your row header Jul 05 20:34:18 giving a space before the semicolon also solves the problem Jul 05 20:34:25 manali thanks Jul 05 20:34:28 o.i get it Jul 05 20:34:29 yes Manali1, it does Jul 05 20:34:32 problem solved Jul 05 20:34:33 done. ssaha thanks Jul 05 20:35:14 Ok, we all seem to have figured out the tables, we will move on to Uploading screenshots Jul 05 20:35:20 manash should get the thanks, rahul Jul 05 20:35:21 or any pictures for that matter Jul 05 20:35:40 thanks manash Jul 05 20:35:43 try to use a small picture because some of you are on slow links Jul 05 20:36:11 stephdg, i didn/t get the pictures part Jul 05 20:36:12 Each of you should see a toolbox option on the left hand side of the browser Jul 05 20:36:30 dipanjan: we are going to explore the file upload feature Jul 05 20:36:36 ok Jul 05 20:36:42 specifically images so that we can put pictures up on the wiki Jul 05 20:36:42 ok Jul 05 20:36:54 does everye see the upload file option? Jul 05 20:37:01 yes Jul 05 20:37:02 yes Jul 05 20:37:10 * vincentvikram (n=vincent@59.92.207.253) has joined #dgplug Jul 05 20:37:13 Click on the link, and when you get to the upload option choose a small photo Jul 05 20:37:16 yes Jul 05 20:37:28 yes Jul 05 20:37:29 or you may also use a small screenshot Jul 05 20:37:33 yes Jul 05 20:37:39 stephdg, the file link option? Jul 05 20:37:40 I'm assuming you all know how to take a screenshot Jul 05 20:37:56 dipanjan: do you see the file upload link on the navigation panel on the left side? Jul 05 20:38:07 * runa_b (n=runa@122.169.67.243) has joined #dgplug Jul 05 20:38:12 under the toolbox? Jul 05 20:38:16 yes. i got it Jul 05 20:38:33 i got it too Jul 05 20:38:38 done Jul 05 20:38:40 done uploading Jul 05 20:39:29 ok, now we are going to learn how to insert the uploaded file into your wiki Jul 05 20:39:36 your mediawiki page* Jul 05 20:39:51 Make sure you are uploading a file that is permitted Jul 05 20:40:07 done uploading Jul 05 20:40:11 done Jul 05 20:40:16 if the file has an extension which is not listed in the wiki's configuration your upload will fail Jul 05 20:40:20 done uploading Jul 05 20:40:42 ! Jul 05 20:40:43 ok, now take the last portion of the link that is shown when the photo is uploaded, starting with "image" Jul 05 20:40:51 djthequest: yes? Jul 05 20:41:11 then put the link in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Image=upload1 Jul 05 20:41:19 idont get a browse option in upload file box Jul 05 20:41:24 then put the link in [[ Image=upload1 ]] Jul 05 20:41:34 no spaces before and after the [[ Jul 05 20:42:02 djthequest: browse is for selecting a file for uploading from your local hard drive Jul 05 20:43:08 got it Jul 05 20:43:25 ! Jul 05 20:43:34 ssaha: yes? Jul 05 20:43:47 done Jul 05 20:43:51 do i need to put any quotation marks? Jul 05 20:43:53 has everyone inserted your uploads into your user page? Jul 05 20:43:58 yes Jul 05 20:43:58 no Jul 05 20:43:59 it is not working Jul 05 20:44:02 ssaha: no just [[ ]] Jul 05 20:44:06 sorry couldnt follow Jul 05 20:44:16 no Jul 05 20:44:22 couldn't get it Jul 05 20:44:28 For local links within the wiki you only need to put [[ ]] Jul 05 20:44:29 take the last portion of the link that is shown when the photo is uploaded, starting with "image"....... didnt understand this part Jul 05 20:44:46 Manali1: what is the link to your uploaded file? Jul 05 20:45:04 not yet, slow connection Jul 05 20:45:20 dipanjan: put [[Image: ]] Jul 05 20:45:46 Manali1: look at this http://training.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=User:Sarbartha and see if you can figure it out Jul 05 20:45:52 ok done Jul 05 20:46:00 ! Jul 05 20:46:18 done Jul 05 20:46:18 zer0c00l: yes? Jul 05 20:46:27 stephdg, i used [[ File:Uploadedfilename ]] it works Jul 05 20:46:40 http://training.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=User:Zer0c00l Jul 05 20:46:42 eof Jul 05 20:46:50 mine is working Jul 05 20:46:50 ok done Jul 05 20:47:13 zer0c00l: yes it will, what is the question Jul 05 20:47:36 now to put borders around your uploaded file add |border after the file name Jul 05 20:47:47 * sunny_slls (n=sunny@125.20.11.34) has joined #dgplug Jul 05 20:48:18 what is the difference between [[ Image: imagename]] and [[ File:Filename]] Jul 05 20:48:21 done... complete...both Jul 05 20:48:39 done Jul 05 20:48:46 zer0c00l: for the purpose of the present markup none Jul 05 20:49:00 done Jul 05 20:49:10 you can even do http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Media: Jul 05 20:49:13 done Jul 05 20:49:13 you can even do [[Media: ]] Jul 05 20:49:24 stephdg, ok Jul 05 20:49:28 Now, on to Mediawiki User Categories Jul 05 20:49:34 ! Jul 05 20:49:37 dipanjan: yes? Jul 05 20:50:12 i don't see any dfference after i put on the border. is it faint? Jul 05 20:50:33 yes dipanjan it is a very faint grey color Jul 05 20:50:36 http://training.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=User:Dipanjan Jul 05 20:50:49 ok. thanks Jul 05 20:51:49 Ok, there are 3 different classes of users on Mediawiki Jul 05 20:52:06 everyone go to section 3 of the presentation Jul 05 20:52:14 1. Bureaucrat Jul 05 20:52:16 2. Sysops Jul 05 20:52:17 3. Normal User Jul 05 20:52:20 present in section 3 Jul 05 20:52:29 Each has different privileges and rights Jul 05 20:54:27 The Bureacrats have all user rights Jul 05 20:55:17 Sysops are basically admins that can do everything the bureacrats can do except edit all user rights Jul 05 20:56:02 the Normal User can create pages, edit pages, discuss, move, and upload files Jul 05 20:57:02 sysops can manage the users except creating new sysops or upgrading themselves to bureacrats Jul 05 20:57:18 they can permanently delete a page Jul 05 20:57:24 they basically work as managers Jul 05 20:57:54 Only sysops and bureacrats can protect pages Jul 05 20:57:55 stephdg, ! Jul 05 20:58:02 rtnpro: yes? Jul 05 20:58:32 ! Jul 05 20:58:32 ! Jul 05 20:58:36 rohitkg: yes? Jul 05 20:58:38 ssaha: yes? Jul 05 20:58:49 stephdg, not able to insert image, http://training.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=User:Rtnpro Jul 05 20:58:53 protect pages from what and by whom? Jul 05 20:59:05 'protecting pages':does it mean protecting from editing? Jul 05 20:59:23 oo...sorry Jul 05 20:59:39 'protecting pages': does it mean protecting from editing? Jul 05 20:59:58 rtnpro: you uploaded that photo? Jul 05 21:00:05 I do not see an uploaded file from you Jul 05 21:00:34 http://training.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=Special:ListFiles we can see all the files that have been uploaded Jul 05 21:00:48 stephdg, no, slow connection, couldn't upload Jul 05 21:00:57 rohitkg ssaha Yes, protecting from editing and deletion Jul 05 21:01:06 rtnpro: that would be why you can not insert the photo Jul 05 21:01:23 stephdg, ok Jul 05 21:01:43 ! Jul 05 21:01:47 djthequest: yes? Jul 05 21:02:03 currently we are normal users? Jul 05 21:02:07 djthequest: yes Jul 05 21:02:31 eof Jul 05 21:02:41 The reason normal users are not allowed to protect pages is because it goes against the collaborative editing philosophy of a Wiki Jul 05 21:03:05 but for reasons of preventing wiki vandalism protection becomes necessary for certain pages sometimes Jul 05 21:04:08 next we will look into version control Jul 05 21:04:48 version control allows you to go through and see the different edits made on a page over time Jul 05 21:05:13 and gives you the ability to revert a page back to its previous state Jul 05 21:05:21 we are going to do a small experiment Jul 05 21:05:32 everyone go to your pages and delete everything except your name and email address Jul 05 21:06:05 done Jul 05 21:06:07 and save it Jul 05 21:06:21 done Jul 05 21:06:24 done Jul 05 21:06:35 and once that is done go to the history link that is shown at the top of your page Jul 05 21:06:47 done Jul 05 21:06:49 ! Jul 05 21:06:54 rtnpro: yes? Jul 05 21:06:54 done Jul 05 21:07:08 done Jul 05 21:07:08 done Jul 05 21:07:20 done Jul 05 21:07:30 done Jul 05 21:07:35 done Jul 05 21:08:00 stephdg, Can I insert images uploaded by other users? Jul 05 21:08:05 * subhodip (n=Subhodip@fedora/subhodip) has joined #dgplug Jul 05 21:08:07 done Jul 05 21:08:28 rtnpro: any user is able to use any file uploaded by other users Jul 05 21:08:37 http://training.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=Special:ListFiles Jul 05 21:08:42 rtnpro: ^^ Jul 05 21:08:55 Now when you are looking at your history you should be able to see what changes were made Jul 05 21:09:26 look at rollback Jul 05 21:09:29 stephdg, ok Jul 05 21:09:33 * vincentvikram has quit ("Leaving.") Jul 05 21:09:57 on the history page Jul 05 21:10:06 see the option of 'rollback' Jul 05 21:10:08 click it Jul 05 21:10:22 clicking it will revert your page back to its previous glory Jul 05 21:10:27 :) Jul 05 21:10:41 and not only that, but you can jump between any version Jul 05 21:10:42 done Jul 05 21:10:49 that is left as an exercise for you to try Jul 05 21:11:09 i didn't find rollback. i clicked on undo Jul 05 21:11:19 me too. Jul 05 21:11:25 * zer0c00l too Jul 05 21:11:32 me too Jul 05 21:11:41 me too Jul 05 21:11:44 same here Jul 05 21:11:58 wow!!done! Jul 05 21:11:59 me too Jul 05 21:12:05 glory restored Jul 05 21:12:05 by undo option Jul 05 21:12:20 There is "undo" option Jul 05 21:12:41 oh! Jul 05 21:13:07 got it Jul 05 21:13:09 yups done Jul 05 21:13:13 we selected a certain record in history, and compared the versions, and then clicked clicked on edit Jul 05 21:13:27 done Jul 05 21:13:49 * ssaha has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jul 05 21:14:01 done :) Jul 05 21:14:08 ! Jul 05 21:14:12 ! Jul 05 21:14:15 one of the important etiquette of using wiki's is using the discussion page Jul 05 21:14:18 rohitkg: yes? Jul 05 21:14:19 Manali1: yes? Jul 05 21:14:36 * ssaha1 (n=shinjan@117.194.233.161) has joined #dgplug Jul 05 21:14:44 while restoring a previous distant version it says The edit could not be undone due to conflicting intermediate edits. Jul 05 21:14:51 was our procedure correct ? as we cited above ? Jul 05 21:15:20 * ssaha1 (n=shinjan@117.194.233.161) has left #dgplug Jul 05 21:15:24 rohitkg: delete everything and try it again Jul 05 21:15:26 Manali1: yes Jul 05 21:15:27 stephdg, ! Jul 05 21:15:28 * ssaha1 (n=shinjan@117.194.233.161) has joined #dgplug Jul 05 21:15:32 rtnpro: yes? Jul 05 21:16:15 stephdg, I am getting "The edit could not be undone due to conflicting intermediate edits." when trying to undo my most recent change Jul 05 21:16:22 one second Jul 05 21:16:49 http://training.burntomlette.in/index.php?title=User:Rohit Jul 05 21:17:01 can u please check in here Jul 05 21:18:07 for the 1st and 9th version Jul 05 21:18:09 You need to figure out what version you are trying to jump to Jul 05 21:18:27 stephdg, ? Jul 05 21:18:56 you can not jump from the first step to the last step with intermediate edits Jul 05 21:19:07 so undo is always with reference to the immediate steps Jul 05 21:19:09 ok Jul 05 21:19:24 so ensure that the last 2 edits are the ones that are selected and re-try Jul 05 21:19:53 you can however, compare, edit and save back to an older version Jul 05 21:20:05 ok, got it Jul 05 21:20:25 rtnpro: did you get it? Jul 05 21:20:35 However if you do it carelessy you might end up deleting content Jul 05 21:20:40 stephdg, got it :) Jul 05 21:20:48 which can again be fixed by using the history Jul 05 21:21:01 any questions so far? Jul 05 21:21:07 no Jul 05 21:21:12 no Jul 05 21:21:12 no Jul 05 21:21:13 no Jul 05 21:21:19 no Jul 05 21:21:20 no Jul 05 21:21:20 no Jul 05 21:21:25 no Jul 05 21:21:28 hmm Jul 05 21:21:54 rtnpro: ?? Jul 05 21:22:12 stephdg, nothing Jul 05 21:22:15 ok Jul 05 21:22:33 so finally, we are nearly at the end of the class Jul 05 21:22:55 Mediawiki is one of the most popular wiki software Jul 05 21:23:10 Wikipedia is a heavily customized Mediawiki Jul 05 21:23:39 ! Jul 05 21:23:39 the Fedora Project (fedoraproject.org) documentation uses Mediawiki Jul 05 21:23:42 zer0c00l: yes? Jul 05 21:23:48 as does dgplug Jul 05 21:24:06 whats the purpose of discussion page? Jul 05 21:24:14 discuss about edits? Jul 05 21:24:15 so in order to contribute to Fedora documentation Mediawiki formatting skills is a tool of choice Jul 05 21:24:15 eof Jul 05 21:24:32 zer0c00l: lets take an example Jul 05 21:24:45 ! Jul 05 21:25:22 you come to a particular projects wiki, you see certain changes may make the documentation even more user friendly Jul 05 21:25:29 Manali1: hold on one second Jul 05 21:25:54 zer0c00l: since its a wiki you can probably create a login and edit it yourself Jul 05 21:26:29 stephdg, yes Jul 05 21:26:35 however, if you have never done any editing on the particular wiki before the etiquette calls for putting up your suggestions and comments on the discussion page Jul 05 21:26:38 Manali1: yes? Jul 05 21:26:45 is Mediawiki the only software for formatting wiki? Jul 05 21:27:08 zer0c00l: the discussion page is for discussing the page Jul 05 21:27:25 zer0c00l: its edits, structure, content, etc Jul 05 21:27:44 stephdg, ok, got it. Jul 05 21:27:56 Manali1: Mediawiki is *NOT* software for formatting wiki, Mediawiki is *one* of many wiki software Jul 05 21:28:10 i have a question regarding tables... Jul 05 21:28:18 usually each wiki software has a slightly different markup Jul 05 21:28:33 Manali1: we are discussing only mediawiki Jul 05 21:28:48 ok..thanks Jul 05 21:29:28 ! Jul 05 21:29:56 ssaha1: one second please Jul 05 21:30:25 there are softwares like Twiki, wikiwiki, dokuwiki, Moinmoin Jul 05 21:30:34 and many others Jul 05 21:30:39 ssaha1: yes? Jul 05 21:30:45 in the edit page of wikipedia for tables class="wikitable" is used...what is the use of it? Jul 05 21:31:29 ssaha1: [21:23] Wikipedia is a heavily customized Mediawiki Jul 05 21:31:42 it uses custom styles, themes, CSS, etc Jul 05 21:32:28 can those be used in burntomlette also?or those are only for wikipedia? Jul 05 21:33:47 hold on Jul 05 21:35:08 ssaha1: it comes from here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css Jul 05 21:35:35 ssaha1: yes CSS files can be used if you know what you are doing Jul 05 21:36:01 and provided the CSS file is under a suitable license that allows you to do that Jul 05 21:36:26 Any further questions? Jul 05 21:36:34 ok...got it Jul 05 21:36:42 ! Jul 05 21:36:46 djthequest: yes? Jul 05 21:37:00 what is RSS file updates? Jul 05 21:37:17 sorry feed updates Jul 05 21:37:54 That allows you to use a RSS akgregator to read the any updates (read edits) to the pages you are watching Jul 05 21:37:57 djthequest: ^^ Jul 05 21:38:13 got it Jul 05 21:38:16 basically it tells you whenever there is change in content djthequest Jul 05 21:38:26 Anything else anyone? Jul 05 21:38:44 ? Jul 05 21:38:50 Manali1: yes? Jul 05 21:38:56 no Jul 05 21:38:56 content of our file or any file stephdg Jul 05 21:39:17 the RSS feed for update isnt clear to me Jul 05 21:39:24 djthequest: content of any file you choose to "watch" Jul 05 21:39:38 ok. Jul 05 21:39:43 Manali1: what par tis not clear to you? Jul 05 21:40:12 is* Jul 05 21:40:15 part is* Jul 05 21:40:21 stephdg: That allows you to use a RSS akgregator to read the any updates (read edits) to the pages you are watching..... this part Jul 05 21:41:14 Manali1: do you understand what RSS is? Jul 05 21:41:28 no Jul 05 21:42:05 RSS is really simple sydication Jul 05 21:42:14 Manali1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSS Jul 05 21:42:40 its basic purpose is to keep us updated whenever there is any update to any content we are following on the web Jul 05 21:42:54 thank u, i need to go through it.... Jul 05 21:42:57 ok Jul 05 21:43:10 Any further questions?? Jul 05 21:43:23 no Jul 05 21:43:28 ! Jul 05 21:43:31 djthequest: yes? Jul 05 21:43:58 you mean update made by any user for a particular page. Jul 05 21:44:09 yes that you choose to follow Jul 05 21:44:25 eof Jul 05 21:45:00 djthequest, Manali1 its conceptually like setting your mobile to receive SMS updates for cricket scores Jul 05 21:45:21 hmm..ok Jul 05 21:45:25 ok. Jul 05 21:45:57 Ok, class is over, if you have further questions you can ping me on IRC later Jul 05 21:46:06 ----End of Session-------